Escoffier Questionnaire: Chefs Melissa and Sean McGaughey

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QUAIL & CONDOR AND TROUBADOR, HEALDSBURG

Melissa and Sean McGaughey, owners of Healdsburg’s Troubadour and Quail & Condor, definitely share the madness that compels seemingly normal human beings to stay up all night and make hundreds of perfectly laminated pastries. They also share 2 children and 2.5 businesses.

Sean moved to Sonoma County to cook at SingleThread in Healdsburg before it opened and stayed through its Michelin-star ascendency. Melissa baked at SingleThread and then began their side hustle turned Healdsburg institution, Quail & Condor. The couple, both in their 30s, opened their second location—Troubadour Bread & Bistro, a sandwich shop cum restaurant—and are consulting chefs on the newly opened Molti Amici, in the former Campo Fina space.

Did you grow up in a food-focused family?

Melissa: I’m from LA. My mom made a lot of Filipino food.

My grandma was a cake decorator and my dad could make tuna casserole. He was the one who pushed me to go to pastry school in Colorado.

Sean: I grew up in Kansas, Nebraska and Colorado, the epicenter of nothing. There was wholesome cooking that I honestly took for granted. I got into cooking from “Great Chefs of the World” on PBS. There was this raspberry coulis with a glaze on it, and little toothpick hearts. And I was, like, “That’s what I want.” I figured out there was culinary school. Maybe through my dial-up internet. I came up with Johnson & Wales [University in Denver]. They had a degree that was college-level classes and culinary.

Melissa: I went there, too, but we met later.

Are your sons restaurant kids?

Melissa: They know where the treats are. Reed [5 years old] is happy to crack the eggs.

Sean: Danzig [3 years old], our younger one, loves cooking with me. He gets all up in it.

Tell us about your early days in the industry.

Sean: For me, it was a country club snack bar, by the pool. I had three parallels running in my life: BMX, punk rock and food. I toured with a punk rock band from 15 to 25, playing guitar and then drums. Then I got kicked out because I cooked too much.

At the snack bar, I immediately rose to the top and they brought me to the main banquet kitchen. I remember going home after my first shift and thinking about how I cut two buckets of potatoes. I still love reflecting on those very menial tasks.

After school, I moved to a ski resort with some friends. Just by chance, the job that I applied to was with a guy that was fresh out of Charlie Trotter’s. I learned so much. Then a chef recommended me to a place with his golfing buddy. And I landed there for eight or nine years, until I was a partner in the business.

What was that restaurant?

Sean: Oh, it doesn’t need a name. It was very fine dining. And, like, a little ’90s. Colorado was still catching up as a food scene. It was always a battle to not serve meat and potatoes.

Where did you start, Melissa?

Melissa: I ended up getting hired on at the restaurant where I did my externship and then stayed. It made me fall in love with the restaurant dynamic. I just love the camaraderie on the pirate ship. Somebody’s always there to bail you out. And I love the pranks.

We try to treat it like a restaurant at Quail & Condor. We’re still planning two days ahead in our brains but we’re selecting the right produce at the right ripeness. We have our Ratatouille moment every day. I created the dream job for 2012 Melissa.

After I finished school, I went to cook at a ramen place. That was my first “pastry chef ” job. That’s in air quotes because we only made one or two things. After three-plus years, I moved to this place called Mercantile, which was in the heart of downtown Denver, working for maybe the best chef in Denver, Alex Seidel.

Sean and I met at Mercantile. We had these games where whoever saw each other first had to yell the other person’s name. And then he mentioned that he was getting a divorce. I was getting out of a long relationship. We became roommates with two other guys and we lived in this house we called the Lonely Hearts Club. Sean and I had the same days off, so we really bonded and talked about food. The first couple seasons of “Chef ’s Table” came out and we would nerd out over that. I don’t think I realized that we were so in love.

I opened my first bakery in the spring of 2015. I called it La Fillette, “little girl,” because my boss at the ramen place called me that. I was 23. I got some really cool awards but I was ready to leave Denver.

Sean introduced me to Zach Golper at Bien Cuit in New York. I sold the bakery to someone who worked there. It was a pretty hardcore peace out.

Sean moved to Sonoma County. We were, like, half dating. I have these journals and I would mention him all the time, wondering how he was doing.

Sean: There was an explosion in the restaurant scene in Denver plus my own life explosion. I was around 30. I needed a hard reset. I called my best friend who was crushing it out here. He’s, like, “You would like it in California.” He did not dangle the carrot that long.

Melissa: I moved to New York and had an amazing time for, like, 10 months. And then it was too lonely. Sean came to visit me once and really solidified our relationship. I decided to at least move back to LA. I loved my time at Gjusta. It was my first real-deal Pastry Chef job.

And then we got pregnant pretty quick—three months into the job. I worked up until two weeks before I gave birth. Sean would come down twice a month, and I would fly up here once a month. He was there for every ultrasound and doctor’s checkup.

Sean: If you need to know about the first flight out of Santa Rosa, I’ve got you.

Melissa: And then I worked in SingleThread as the hotel baker for exactly a year.

Sean: I got here pretty early on in the life of SingleThread.

It was so small that Aaron Koseba, our chef, was going out to dive for sea urchin every week. It’s still evolving but there were some shapes that we created in those early days. We really fell in love with the community and the landscape.

How did Quail & Condor start?

Melissa: I needed some more flexibility because of our baby. I left SingleThread after realizing that the farmers’ markets were so fun and lucrative for us. But it was gnarly. I got pregnant again. If I write an autobiography it’s going to be called Blood, Sweat, and Amniotic Fluid. Sean would go to work from 11am to almost midnight. He would stay home with our son, Reed, while I would go to Trading Post in Cloverdale to make scones, do the bread and laminate croissants until about 6:30am, so there was time to break down and clean before they needed their kitchen back. And then I’d schlep everything in the car, go home and nap. Then Sean would set up at the market and I would take over so he could get to SingleThread to work until midnight again. And then we had our second baby. We pretty much did that for two years.

Sean: We needed room. So we took a chance on getting the space. And we had both owned something before. We knew we wouldn’t screw it up as hard. Lessons learned. We could cover rent from our farmers’ market sales, so it made sense. I always loved that a bakery is a quick way to experience a chef. It’s 10 bucks and five minutes. But I didn’t understand you’re really a part of daily life. All of a sudden, I have 500 names that I have to remember. It was super awesome. We were also doing the best guerilla marketing because we had built relationships before we ever opened our doors.

Melissa: Everybody’s backyard had Meyer lemons, or crazy varietals of oranges. And it just turned into this cyclical thing where we take it off their hands and turn it into something.

When did you decide to open Troubadour?

Melissa: Quail & Condor was open about nine months.

Sean: The Troubadour space was on the market. We walked through and, honestly, we left it and we’re, like, “It has a floor. Let’s do it.” We punk rock bootstrapped all of it. Anything that came in, we immediately just put it back into the business. But the bakery quickly got too small. We were selling 80 sandwiches at the bakery. So we decided to do sandwiches at Troubadour. We really just needed to get the bread [baking] out of Quail so we had room to move over there. We started with made to order, so everything was fresh.

And here’s the thing: I made really good sandwiches. But I made them too complicated. I should be smarter than that. But I wasn’t. It was the curse of the sandwich: Even though you are using the most expensive ingredients, because it’s between bread it can only cost so much. We went back to the original pre-made, Parisian concept and it has been great.

Turns out I wasn’t getting my daily fill of actual cooking. So the last piece of the puzzle here was to create the nighttime program. And as much as I had to learn how to run a sandwich shop, I do know how to run a restaurant. So this one was really fun.

What about your energy? Between you, you’re running three meals and a family.

Melissa: We are ships passing a lot. But I’m not mad about it. We’re both lone wolves. It’s such a treat when we do get time together. We definitely protect Sundays. That is our family day with the kids and to just sleep. And we find little moments.

EDIBLE MARIN AND WINE COUNTRY:

What was the first meal you made that you were proud of ?

Melissa: Breaded and chicken cutlets and pasta Alfredo, from watching my mom.

Sean: Ha, nearly the same. Mine was this chicken breast stuffed with green chilies and cheese. I was maybe 15 years old.

What was your favorite food as a kid?

Melissa: Boxed mac and cheese and Gorton’s fish sticks.

Sean: I grew up pretty far from everything so Chinese food was a welcome change of pace. My grandma’s fried chicken dinner with sweet corn from the garden was, in hindsight, better than anything from a restaurant.

What food do you wish you loved?

Melissa: Prawns. Everyone seems to really love sucking the head. I can’t get over the anatomy.

Sean: Crab and lobster. It’s great in a dish but to be lined up at a seafood boil isn’t quite my thing. I don’t love it enough to go through all the work.

What food do you love unreasonably much?

Melissa: Cake and pie. Sometimes I could eat myself into a bellyache.

Sean: Caviar—best eaten in bigger quantities. Don’t overcomplicate things: creme fraîche, chives and Pringles is perfect.

What is the most difficult cooking technique to do well?

Melissa: Cooking meat and fish. Undercooking is easy to do, and overcooking turns it into a rubber tire or sawdust. Sean: Braising. People think it is “set it and forget it” but it requires experience and judgment to get something awesome.

What is your favorite ingredient?

Melissa: I love, love, love tonka bean. It tastes like warm vanilla and cinnamon.

Sean: I’m always reaching for a dash of umami.

What is your favorite hangover meal?

Hers: Sparkling water and biscuits and gravy.

His: Same. Maybe add a Gatorade.

What restaurant in the world are you most dying to try?

Melissa: I’m still enamored with the idea of Atelier Crenn and Alinea. Pretty much the first season of “Chef ’s Table.” Sean: A few high-level French places like Sézanne in Tokyo and Hotel Café Royal in London.

What kitchen utensil is most indispensable to you?

Melissa: Small offset spatula. It can spread, cut, lift, slice and correct.

Sean: Cutting board. Imagine trying to cook without one.

Who do you most like to cook for?

Melissa: Sean. He’s a man of few words but his face says a lot. It’s fun for me while also filling my cup as his life partner.

Sean: Melissa. She’ll always shoot me straight. To nourish the person you care for is a great feeling.

If you could do one other job, what would it be?

Melissa: Flower farmer. I am learning and obsessing about it.

Sean: Recording engineer or something adjacent.

What most satisfies your sweet tooth?

Melissa: Warm apple pie or blueberry galette with vanilla ice cream.

Sean: Custard and fruit, in any form.

What would you eat at your last meal, if you could plan such a thing?

Melissa: I would have my dim sum favorites like xiao long bao, turnip cake, sticky rice in lotus wrap, and gai lan.

Sean: I’ll join Melissa’s dim sum table.

What’s your favorite place to go for (and what is your favorite thing to order) for …

a splurge meal?

Melissa: Most recently I really enjoyed Animo in Sonoma. Champagne and caviar service!

Sean: Time away is the splurge.

breakfast?

Melissa: Denver Skillet at Skillets in Windsor.

Sean: Flakey Cream Do-Nuts in Healdsburg, with the kids.

pastry?

Melissa: Any scone with marzipan from Wild Flour Bakery.

Sean: The original Tartine and/or B. Patisserie.

a late-night/after-work meal?

Melissa: Bravas for eggplant chips, pig ears, tortilla española and gin & tonics.

Sean: I love Korean BBQ wherever I’m traveling.

a cup of coffee?

Melissa: Cappuccino from Equator coffee in San Anselmo.

Sean: Latte from Black Oak in Healdsburg.

a greasy-spoon meal?

Melissa: Flaky Cream Do-Nuts in Healdsburg—the corned beef hash.

Sean: Flakey for me, too.

groceries?

Melissa: Healdsburg Farmers’ Market and Shelton’s Natural Foods.

Sean: Oliver’s Market in Windsor.

kitchen equipment?

Melissa: We’ve purchased used equipment from local businesses and we pick up odds and ends from Plaza Gourmet Cookware in Healdsburg.

Sean: Korin Cutlery Store and JB Prince in NYC (now serving LA!)

ice cream?

Melissa: We take the kids to Noble Folk a lot and we love Corn Flake & Maple!

Sean: I like soft serve, personally. Wicked Slush is near us.

chocolate?

Melissa: Fleur Sauvage Chocolates in Windsor for the rosemary truffle or the fennel and bee pollen truffle. We eat them in bed after the kids go to sleep.

Sean: Chef Buttercup [Editor’s note: a former EQ subject] at Fleur Sauvage deserves a shout, as well as the Volo folks— I love the Brikka.

And lastly but not leastly … What is your favorite local wine or beer for the season?

Melissa: I like Cooperage or Fogbelt Station for saisons or sour beers. For wine, Rootdown has my attention.

Sean: Russian River Velvet Glow. It’s just fancy enough.

Marissa LaBrecque is the principal at Hyperflore Brand Strategy + Storytelling. Hyperflore.com

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